Catherine Bell - Be The Bank & Rent Dirt
Catherine Bell, the visionary founder of Titan Impact Group, joins the Real Freedom show with a remarkable narrative of triumph over adversity. Her journey, from a challenging upbringing to achieving financial abundance through real estate, is both inspiring and insightful. Catherine's expertise in building diverse streams of passive income across different asset classes, despite facing significant hurdles, offers invaluable wisdom for real estate investors and entrepreneurs seeking to expand their financial portfolios. Her resilience and strategic approach to investment make her a compelling guest for those looking to cultivate diversified passive income streams and achieve financial freedom.
In this episode, you will be able to:
- Discover how to build passive income through real estate for long-term financial stability.
- Explore the benefits of diversifying investment asset classes to maximize your financial growth.
- Uncover the impact of personal background on real estate success and how it can shape your investment journey.
- Understand the importance of networking in real estate investing and how it can open doors to new opportunities and connections.
The key moments in this episode are:
00:00:00 - Introduction to Real Estate Investment
00:02:13 - Overcoming Adversity
00:08:32 - Making a Difference
00:13:01 - Taking Action in Times of Need
00:15:23 - Embracing Diversification and the "Who, Not How" Mindset
00:19:01 - Finding Your North Star in Real Estate Investing
00:24:47 - The Power of Self-Education and Strategic Networking
00:27:12 - Building Passive Income through Relationships
00:33:31 - Resourcefulness Over Resources
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Catherine Bell
I like to be the bank and I like to rent dirt. Those are my things. So because of that, I'm in different asset classes that allow me to do that. So we've got mobile home parks. We've got triple net lease, commercial medical space. We have workforce housing. We have a debt validation fund that helps first responders and their families get out of debt. We do oil and gas to do with tax mitigation. So we're in those different asset classes. And we have our investors in those different asset classes to help now mitigate the risk inside of their portfolio.
Mike Swenson
Welcome to the Real Freedom show, where we inspire you to pursue your passion to gain time and financial freedom through opportunities in real estate. I'm your host, Mike Swenson. Let's get some real freedom together. Hello, everybody. Welcome to another episode of Real Freedom Real Estate Leveraged Freedom, where we talk about different ways that you can build time and financial freedom through opportunities in real estate. I'm your host, Mike Swenson. Everybody's path is different we often talk about. My goal here is that you hear these stories, you listen to people's journey, Something resonates with you. And today's guest, Catherine Bell, certainly has some unique pieces to her story that we hope would inspire you and, you know, push you to be able to take action. Because there's so many things inside of real estate that we can do a lot of different passengers journeys, and we all come from different backgrounds, but hopefully you guys get some information out of here, something that's going to inspire you to take action and build the life that you want to live. And as we'll also touch on, be able to give back and help others. And that's a big part of what makes Catherine tick as well. So Catherine is the founder of Titan Impact Group. You certainly have an awesome backstory, so I'll just kind of let you share that. But just, you know, growing up, having a difficult childhood, being able to recognize the opportunity that's out there, grab the bull by the horns, take action, build multiple streams of income inside of real estate, having trag tragedy come your way again and having some big things happen, and just being able to lean on the work that you built in real estate to be able to help your family and live the life you want to live, obviously making an impact with charities. I'll let you share more about that. But, Catherine, we're so excited to have you on the show.
Catherine Bell
I'm excited to be here. Where do you want to start? There's a lot.
Mike Swenson
Yeah, just share, share about your background. I think it really helps for people to understand kind of where people come from and how it shapes their story. And obviously that's a big piece for you. So take us back to the beginning a little bit and then kind of getting into real estate and we'll go from there.
Catherine Bell
I love that. So originally I'm born Canadian and I was born to a teenage mother and I was in and out of more homes than you can possibly count and went to 13 different schools. But I didn't actually learn to read till I was in the eighth grade. But I did get straight A's because I learned very quickly. They didn't want you to think, they just wanted you to get the right answer. And I knew how to do that. I was extremely resourceful and I ended up raising my younger brothers and got them adopted by their fathers. And then eventually I was headed down a pretty horrible path. And then when I was 16, I got myself adopted, which saved my life and eternally grateful for my parents. And fast forward because I was able to get myself adopted, I was able to graduate high school, go on to college, travel the world. Eventually I met and married my husband. We got married in 2001, who's American. And so I was 26 when I came to this country with nothing. And he had a dream. And we took his dream, we turned it into a multimillion dollar company. So by the time I was 30, I was a millionaire and absolutely loved the American dream, loved capitalism, all that. And ended up through that period, we ended up adopting our twins out of the foster care system. And they were bab babies at the time. And so we really, we were living the American dream. Everything was magical. And then we sold our company and it was right about the same time that the economy tanked and in 2008, nine, and we, we had all of our assets, it was all one asset class. Which is a part of the lesson that I want everybody to get is making sure you diversify into different asset classes, not just different assets in that same class. So because of that, when the economy tanked, we did lose everything. So we ended up becoming homeless.
Catherine Bell
So going from literally millionaires to homeless. And so at the same time, my husband got super, super sick. And so I had to go back to work to provide for our family. So I was working 80 hours a week coming home, taking care of my sick husband, taking care of my twins. I mean, it was soul crushing for me that I couldn't be a stay at home mom to take care of my twins and I knew that I couldn't keep burning the candle at both ends. So I knew the average millionaire made seven streams of passive income. Passive income, not active. So I had to figure it out. And so I just started asking a lot of questions and becoming really resourceful and creative inside of that. And so inside of all that, we ended up starting out doing buy and hold, and turns out I don't like tenants and toilets. And then we did wholesaling, which doesn't bring in consistent cash flow. Um, we did. I ended up running a program here in Arizona called the Flipping Females. So I partnered with women and taught them how to invest, and we flipped about 500 properties here. Um, I love the before and after and all that. It was an obscene amount of work. Um, then I went on and learned that out of all the positions that you can hold in any real estate investing transaction, being the bank is the most secure. So I was like, how do you do that? So I started my own hedge fund. And then we did vacation rentals. Turns out I don't like gas and toilets. I did residential ground up, commercial ground up. We, you know, we did lots of those, which is a lot of fun. Um, and then in 2018, my husband died very tragically, leaving me a window, a widow and a single mom. But at that point, I had created 13 streams of passive income for my family. And it was those 13 streams of passive income in different asset classes, which is the really important part, that gave me the ability to take a year off and grieve with my twins and figure out what I was going to do. Right? So money is like oxygen. The more you have, the easier it is to breathe. The more you have easier to breathe, the bigger the difference in the world you can make. And so in that time, I got really clear about a couple of things. Is like, that out of all the different types of investments, and this is the thing I want people to take away. It's like, give yourself permission to try different investment classes and go full cycle and then go through a completion process that really has, you understand, you know, what worked, what didn't work, what you like, didn't like. Like, what are all the lessons? And by doing that completion process after each project, and if you don't know what that is, you can contact me. I'll walk you through it. Is that I got really clear from my personality that I love two things. I like to be the bank and I like to rent dirt. Those are my things. So because of that, I'm in different asset classes that allow me to do that. So we've got mobile home parks, We've got triple net lease, commercial medical space. We do. We have workforce housing. We have a debt validation fund that helps first responders and their families get out of debt. We do oil and gas to do with tax mitigation. So we're in those different asset classes, and we have our investors in those different asset classes to help now mitigate the risk inside of their portfolio. Because at the end of the day, as a mom, I needed to make sure that my portfolio, no matter what was happening in the economy, it was going to be okay. And that's why we diversify. So, you know, at the end of the day, if we look at the, you know, globally, economically, what goes on, no matter who's in office, no matter if we're in a recession or, you know, whatever, we'll always need two things. We'll always need affordable housing. We'll always need medical care. So inside of that, that's how and why that we've diversified the way that we are diversified. And so we just keep continuing to build that and create it in such a way that investors can plug in to create those passive streams of income for their families. Again, it's passive, right? And so why do I do all that? I have two nonprofits, because, again, the more you have, the bigger the difference you can make, right? So my first nonprofit is Bell Community Empowerment foundation, and that is focused on that. Right now, there's over 500,000 children in the US foster care system, and about 350,000 are available for adoption today. And people are not aware of this. And so it costs anywhere from $1,000 to $2,500 to adopt a child. But it's very specialized adoption agencies that focus on this type of adoption. And so we're out to raise awareness and raise the money necessary for these agencies to continue to. I hate to say it, but do the marketing to get in front of the right families. Because here's the reality is that right now there's 2.1 million families looking to adopt, but they're unaware of this type of adoption. There's more than 350,000 congregations in this country that are all called to take care of widows and orphans. So the plan is that if each church takes on finding one family to adopt one child, we can get this done in our lifetime. But bigger than that, for me, I think about, like, my own journey. And what if 1 1% of those children that got families and are loved, that got so inspired just by being loved and being chosen that they decide to go make a difference in the world. That'd be 3, 500 adults that go to make a huge impact in the world just says, you know, I am because I was loved. Right? So that's a really important piece of understanding, like what your why is so that you keep making the impact that you can. And I have another nonprofit called Wealth Wise Women, where we're literally teaching families and teaching women how to engage inside of the family and engage inside of investing. Because statistically, women actually make better investors than men just because we're whole brain thinkers. You know, I always say men are like waffles and women are like spaghetti. Right? Like, men are able to focus on one thing and laser focus in, and they're very good at it, which we love. But women, we're like spaghetti. Everything touches everything. And so because of that, we just see the bigger picture and are able to now manage even more things and holistically around all of that. So by doing that and having families come together to do that, it really is extraordinary in creating those multiple streams of passive income for the whole family.
Catherine Bell
Right. Because at the end of the day, we're all going to experience one, if not most of the five Ds. And if we don't have our financial house in order, those Ds hurt even more. So the Ds are death. We're all going to experience that. Like, nobody gets out of this, this journey that we're on alive. But the other ones that you may experience are. So it's death, divorce, diagnosis, downsize, or being dumped from your job. Right. And I hope that people don't experience those. However, if they do and their financial house is in order, it just doesn't hurt as much. Right. So the, the other thing we were just talking about is again, if you can add commas to your bank account, you must, you must add those commas because you never know when you're going to be called to make that difference that you're here to make. And a very clear, very real world example of that is a few weeks ago, the hurricane hit Asheville, North Carolina. One of my business partners is there and, you know, his whole staff and everything. So we were like frantically texting, like, are you okay? No. Calls weren't getting through, messages weren't getting through. So finally a message got through that he was okay. So I was like, okay, great. And he couldn't get to his home, so he didn't know how it was going to be, you know, all that. And so I was like, you know, here I am in Arizona. Like, what am I going to do? But I was just like, look, if there's anything I can do, please, please, please let me know. And so again, messages weren't getting through. So it happened that it was 7:30 in the morning and I'm sitting on a call with all of the other women that I'm creating the Wealth Wise Women non profit with and we're working through all the non profit stuff, doing all that. And his message gets through and it's the text message says that they like, their immediate need is they need food, water, fuel and body bags. Like, what I mean that was like, it pierced my heart to the, like, to the core. And I was just like, ladies, stop, stop what we're doing, here's what we're going to do. I said, they created a GoFundMe account that was specifically was going to go to all the money was going to go literally to help these families in this community. And so, and I knew it was going to happen. So I said, ladies, I don't know what we can do, but here's what I know. We're only like one or two degrees away from people who have the resources to make all this happen. So I said, put it on all your social media, text messages, email newsletters, like, I don't. However you need to reach, let's reach out to our networks and let them know we need and let's figure out a way to make this happen. Within 48 hours, over $100,000 was raised and we were in communication and coordinating with the United Cajun Naval Service. They deployed helicopters with food, water, fuel and body bags immediately into that community, which was extraordinary. And I was literally just there this past weekend. We were part of a whole other thing of helping actually sell the U.S. constitution, which is a whole other thing. But when we were there, I was literally talking to the families that were there and they were so grateful that the United Cajun Service came in with all this stuff. Like, it literally helped the community in a very, very, very real need, like in that moment. So it was because again, all of us doing what we could do, adding as many commas to our bank account, that we had the resources and the connections and everything necessary to make that happen. When the government's still like stumbling over itself trying to figure out, you know, how to get people in there to help, we immediately were able to just do it. So again, I, I feel that very strong need inside of like, and we're just talking about this, this weekend. It's like having, I feel like I have a capitalist mind, but with a socialist heart. Coming from Canada, right. Like one is not better than the other, but together it's really extraordinary in the impact and the difference that can be made. And I feel like if we can, we must because we never know where we're going to be called to make that impact. Right. So anyway, yeah, that's a lot I just shared, but I hope the takeaways that people are getting is one, give yourself permission to try the different asset classes. Oh, and here's the other part that I like to talk about is I always share this book, who, not how, right? Like people ask, how do you create those 13 streams of passive income? I didn't ask how I could do it. I looked for who already knew how and I plugged into them and that's how I created it. So, for instance, since I'm the who for a lot of people who want to know how to invest in mobile home parks or medical office or the debt validation fund or oil and gas, like it's rather than again, the steep learning curve of us trying to figure out the how to do all the things, it would take a lifetime to master all that. But instead it's the when you find the who already knows how and plug into them and bring the resources there. All of a sudden, now we collapse timelines and are able to catapult forward faster in adding commas to bank accounts so we can make that impact. Right? So again, it's. This is one of the brilliant things like as moms or as parents that we really have mastered at. Like if you look at, you know, when we go to get our kids educated, most people go find who already knows how, meaning really good schools with good teachers or if our family, our kiddos are sick, right? We don't go get a PhD. We already go find who already has a PhD and already knows how to get them better. Investing is the exact same, right? We already know who knows how to get into that type of investment, is already doing it, and we just plug in and get the benefits from making that work. So that is the piece that I want people to start thinking, you know, working smarter rather than harder and again, bringing diversification to their portfolio in the different asset classes. So anyway, those are my things.
Mike Swenson
Well, there's a lot there for us to cover and we could probably pick out five topics and do hour long podcasts on each of them. I just want to highlight, you know, we talk about building time and financial freedom as a way to have that flexibility. And, you know, you're somebody that now can. Has been able to demonstrate that. Right. Like, for people listening, this is why we were going through this. We know it's challenging. We know there's roadblocks, we know there's ups and downs. But being able to step in and help somebody in a time of need like that and be able to just pull, pull resources together and to be able to deploy them, like, that's why we do this. And so for people that are looking for motivation, like, you can impact more than just the people right around you, just your immediate family, your extended family. There's so much more that you can do. And even just, you know, talking about adoption, right. There's so many different ways that you helping to grow yourself in real estate can impact the world. And so you're a great example of that. Now on the other side, people will be like, oh my gosh, like, look at all these things that Catherine has going on. I could never do that, or I couldn't get started, or, oh my gosh, all these different asset classes, like, how can you do that? Maybe just start with like a beginner step. And obviously like the who, not how is a great concept, but, like, for somebody who's like, oh my gosh, I want to do something big in real estate, there's all these different asset classes I could do. How do I know which one's going to be the right fit for me? Because you bounced around a little bit, discovering what you didn't like to do, and that's maybe kind of my answer as well as you, you do what you do and find out what you like and don't like, and eventually you get closer to kind of your, your North Star of what is going to be the thing that you like and resonates with you.
Catherine Bell
Yeah, I think that that's really important is that people need to give themselves permission to try the different asset classes and go through a full cycle of each one. And then again, you glean from it, like, what worked, what didn't work, what did you learn, what would you do differently? And then you start to get really clear what resonates with you. Right. So there's a really great book by Simon Sinek called Starting with why and When We. When I, I remember the moment that I got really clear on what my why was, all of a sudden, everything that I did all of a sudden came into alignment. So for me, my why is that every project that we touch must, must, must leave every person, property and community Better than we found them. Like, that is my number one benchmark. So if a project doesn't meet all that criteria, I don't touch it. I just walk away. It just becomes really clear what to say no and yes to. You know, Steve Jobs said the thing he's the most proud of is the things he said no to. Right. And so by having that clear why defined for myself now, it makes it clear when opportunities come my way, go, does it meet this? Yes. No. Right. And then from there, the next steps of figuring out, like, what are the pieces? So finding. So for me, does it meet that benchmark? Next is the team. The team is the most important piece. So let's just say you found the asset class. Now you're looking for the project and the team. And the team is a critical piece of making sure you do your due diligence. So having mentors has been a huge part of, like, my success and making sure that I vet those mentors. So there's a couple criteria when I'm going to do when I was getting mentored by, you know, different people. So first of all, the mentoring inside of it, are they making their money from doing the thing or are they making their money from selling a course about doing the thing? Those are two very different criteria. Right. So I wanted to see that their money was coming from doing the thing, not from selling a course about doing the thing. Again, you understand the difference there? Like that is profound. And then I would always ask to speak to at least three people that they have been working with over for the last six to 12 months that commas have been added directly to their bank account as a direct result of the mentoring. And when I asked those questions, 90% of the people couldn't even meet that criteria for those two pieces. Right. Because again, they were just selling a course. Again, it's, you know, Steve always says it's like a man with experience will never be held hostage by a man with a theory. And again, it's that piece of like, experience comes from actually doing the thing versus the theory is just, you know, teaching about the thing but never actually mastering it. So that was a big, big piece for my whole journey in vetting out people for myself. And then when I'm actually doing deals, I also require that we do full financial and criminal background checks on people inside of, like, working with people. So about a year and a half ago, I was in the middle of doing a deal and it was with two really wonderful gentlemen. Absolutely loved them. They were amazing. They were funny, they were Likable, they're charismatic, amazing, just beautiful human beings. And they were in their late 60s, you know, lots of experience, amazing resumes, all that. And we were doing, putting together about a hundred million dollar deal that we were in the middle of. And so we're doing all the due diligence, flying out to all the properties, you know, doing all that that we had to. And in the meantime, you know, I was like, look, we're doing full financial and criminal background checks on you and your, you know, the partners in the company. And they're like, yeah, yeah, it's clean, it's clean. I was like, okay. So anyways, spent a lot of time with them, all of that. And then after a couple of weeks, we finally get the reports back from our legal team on them and the background checks of them. So they kept telling us and assuring us it was clean, it was clean, it was clean. Long story short, what came up on the report was between the five of them, there was 27 bankruptcies, 17 judgment liens, $14 million of investor money missing, and prison time. And they kept telling me it was clean. So just because somebody says something, you can trust them, but go verify, you know. So clearly we walked away from that deal. They were pretty angry with me. But at the end of the day, you know, my investors would be extremely grateful because I stood in the gap and protected them from that. Right. Like, it's really important to understand people's backgrounds. So, you know, when you're doing that, you know, ask the smart questions. One of my other favorite books that I like to share with everybody is the Road Less Stupid by Keith Cunningham. And I love that book. I tell people, listen to it on Audible because listening to him actually say, like, talk it through, it's beyond hilarious. It's the one book that I'm literally laughing out loud all the time. But he really, he really does an amazing job. Have you ask really brilliant questions to yourself. He says, we don't need to be making more better decisions, we need to be making less stupid decisions. Like, how many stupid decisions have we all made, including myself, because I didn't stop and take the time to actually think through and ask better questions. Right? So it's, you know, the better the questions we can ask, the more we're protecting ourselves and just making better choices. So it's. Those are the things that I would say. I mean, it's a lot of reading I just gave everybody, but it's that piece like, we have to do the internal work to become better at whatever it is, right? And here's the beautiful thing. You don't need a fancy college degree, you don't need all of that. This is all self education and working with people who already know how to do the thing, right? So like that's the piece. When people start looking, you have to shift your thinking to start thinking better. Like, oh my gosh, you know, and I, I liken it to Henry Ford. You know, Henry Ford was called into, called into the courts and because they said he must be doing something illegal, nobody can be this rich. And you know, and so they're questioning him about all the things and how do you do this? How do this? He's like, I don't know, but there's a whole line of telephones on my desk. I know exactly who to call to ask that question to, right? Like if you're the smartest person in the room, you're in the wrong room. I always am surrounded by people way smarter than me, thank goodness, who are showing me like, okay, we need to do it this way, this way, this way. I'm like, okay, fantastic. And I trust and verify, you know, so that we're strategically moving it, moving everything that we're doing forward in a very thoughtful, profitable way so that again, we add more commas to make a bigger impact in the world.
Mike Swenson
Well, and I think one important thing that you kind of glossed over that I hope people understand is because you're focusing on the who's to gain knowledge and learn from. You're not just going willy nilly trying to figure things out on your own. Right? Because like most people, it's like, well, if I want to get into real estate investing, you know, I've got to go figure it out and try to swing the hammer myself. Well, how much faster can you get where you want to go by talking to somebody that's built a portfolio in that area? Go do that first instead of trying to just figure it out. And like you had mentioned, with the road less stupid, like, yeah, there's a lot of things that you can do that probably slow down your journey where you can just kind of skip chapters 1 through 10 by going and talking to the person that's built that. And that probably is the key piece of advice here is go find the person that might be doing the thing that you want to do, talk to them, figure out how to get there versus doing it on your own and trying to figure it out on your own and pay that dumb tax or, you know, inexperience tax to do that.
Catherine Bell
Yes, Absolutely. Yeah. No, that. That's a beautiful way of exactly putting it. That's exactly what I want people to get. Go find the who already knows how.
Mike Swenson
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Catherine Bell
So, number one, it's all been relationships, every single one of those. Now people think that I started like 30 different companies. No, because it was passive. Like, here's the thing. And most of these, like, I brought relationships, sometimes capital, a lot of my experience, my network, everything to the table that created those 13 streams of passive income. So for instance, when I talk about, like the hedge fund, how did I become a hedge fund owner? What had happened was I was actually working for another company and I was busy building that company and the owner of the company came to me and said, hey, on top of everything you're already doing, working 80 hours a week, I also want you to start my hedge fund and do all this. And I was like, so I'm not going to get paid anything extra. It's going to be more time away from my family and you just want to add onto my workload. Like, that doesn't make sense. Could I do it? Yeah, but to what benefit? So I counter offered and I said, well, I'll only do this if I can be part owner in the fund. Like, there's got to be some benefit to me. And he said, no, and later came back and said, okay, fine. So because of my ability to project management this whole thing, putting the whole thing together was supposed to take like 18 months. I was able to collapse timelines and get it done in six months. And so bringing that skill set to the table, I now got to be an owner in a hedge fund, right? So it's the, like, what else do I have in place that allows me to participate in and become an equity partner in these different deals, right? And so that's the thing to think about, like, what is your skill set or what is your network? What is your connections? Like, you have got resources available to you that those are valuable to somebody else, that when you come together, you can now become an equity partner inside of whatever it is and create those passive streams of income. Some of the passive streams of income I created, like through affiliate programs, different things like that, like 20 years ago are still paying out today, right? So there's ways of doing it and setting it up so that it literally is a win win for all parties. And so we just need to be slow down and be a little more thoughtful inside of, like, hold on, how can this be a win win for all of us, not just you? Because I'm giving everything away to you, right? And so that's how I created a lot of my passive streams of income.
Mike Swenson
My head's spinning. Obviously, I'm an operations person, like, wanting to hear all those details behind it. But what you said on a high level makes a lot of sense for people, right? Like, yeah, go find the people. And then those relationships over time can really help each other out. Like, you bring a lot of value in a conversation with somebody when you have relationships or people that you can connect people to. And then on the other side meeting new people, there's a lot of connections that they can help connect you to. But we're all going in the same direction, right? We want to help each other grow our businesses, we want to help each other grow our lives. And through being able to kind of pass those relationships back and forth, you're creating a great network of growth, I guess.
Catherine Bell
Absolutely. You know, and that's the thing, like, I really want people to understand, especially kids coming in, kids, you know, younger people who are now coming into the workforce and stuff. And I was just having a conversation at dinner the other night with a couple of them, and it was like, look, you need to understand that your relationships are everything. So when you burn somebody, you need to understand your reputation is going to precede you. Meaning as you get older, you never know, say, 10 years from now, how when you walk into a room that person, now that you burned them, now you actually need them. But because you destroyed that relationship, now you screwed yourself, right? Like that is a really important piece. And inside of the investing world, it's a small world. So when you do harm to relationships, when you don't leave people better than you found them, it will come back to bite you, right? Like there's lots of people that I won't touch with a ten foot pole because they have burned me or somebody else that I know closely in my network, right? So when you have that character, that's an issue, right? And I always tell my twins, it's like your thoughts become your words, your words become your actions, your actions become your behavior, your behavior becomes habit, your habit literally becomes your character. So when we look at our thoughts all the way through, is that the caliber of person you really want to be at the end of the day? Like being a high caliber person, it definitely is a lot more work and more discipline. But at the end of the day, 20, 30 years from now, the payout is huge because of your reputation, right? Where if you want to do things like fast and loose and you know, just who cares how many people you hurt or whatever, Again, think about the damage that that's going to be 20, 30, 40 years from now. You know, our character is everything. So pay attention to that and how you are or are not leaving every person, property and community better than you found them.
Mike Swenson
I've got a page of notes myself just on everything that you've taught me throughout this episode here. But people that want to reach out to you, obviously you're a wealth of information, you've got a ton of great relationships to connect people with. And for people listening this, that want to get started, how can they reach out to you?
Catherine Bell
I'm on LinkedIn. My company is Titan Impact Group, so you can find me there. I'm all over social media. Catherine Bell is, happens to be a famous actress and you know, a very famous name. But again, Titan Impact Group and Catherine Bell and you'll find I've got copious amounts of videos and all sorts of fun that people can watch and yeah, I, whatever you need. I'm here to happily collaborate and connect and connecting is my superpower. So you know, I've made lots of connections for you. And again, it's like you never know how amazing all these things and communities can come together to make magic.
Mike Swenson
Well, thank you so much for sharing your story and I think for people too to see people can get a leg up based on how they were born where they were born, in that background. But at the same time, for somebody like you, you were able to do that, all that, despite your upbringing, and you had, you know, mountains to climb. And so for people listening to this, anything's possible. You just gotta work at it. And so you're just a great inspiration for that.
Catherine Belle
Yeah. It's not about resources. It's about resourcefulness. How resourceful are you? Like, that's what it comes down to. Because, honestly, what happens to us, there's nothing we can do about that. But what we choose to do about it 100% is our responsibility. So, yeah, there's. I don't know. To me, there's no excuse. So don't call me if you want to cry about your circumstances.
Mike Swenson
Yeah. Call you if they want to be inspired to grow, for sure.
Catherine Bell
Or be held accountable and have their butt kicked. I'm happy to do that.
Mike Swenson
Yes. Yes. Well, thank you so much, Catherine, for coming on and sharing and, yeah, for people listening, please reach out to her. And you certainly can help a lot of people. So thank you so much for taking the time and coming on.
Catherine Bell
Thank you. I so love what you're doing and sharing all these stories. This is magic. Thank you.
